I've found some speakers. Now I'm selling all of my Altecs

[voice of the theater]

Joe? Hmmmm, Exemplars.....editor.....hmmmmm......bug screens.......chinch bugs.

You are the reason my Altecs sound as good as they do. I think I have most of the old SP mags.

BTW, as Bowtie knows, I have a pair of 9849's....I guess I better fire them up!

Ron

It was Joe's suggestion to remove your bug screens? I thought that was your idea. I'm still considering removing the screens from my Model 14's/902-8A (after your suggestion months ago) since that is a reversible procedure but can't bring myself to cut the screens out of my 802-8G's with a utility knife in case I don't like the results.

I was the second poster, and I invented the internet........ok, those are both fibs.......

The Valencia is a bass reflex with a horn.
The M19 is a bass reflex with a horn.
It is a bigger reflex, has a better hf driver and a better crossover. With an M19 xover, and the 902-8A or 802-8G hf driver, the Valencia would be darn close. Later versions were equipped with the -8B woof.
No one ever sems to mention the similarities.

That said, I thank the OP for making more Altecs available to those who want them, and for starting what has become a very enlightening thread!

Ron

Agree 100% here. Valencias and Model 19's are similar in ingredients, however they are very different in how they sound/have a whole different timbre as well as different bandwidth range. I have mentioned multiple times here that when I owned two pair of Valencias (well, technically, one pair were AS 101's), I seriously considered implementing Zilch's recommended mods for Valencias (he owned a pair of Valencias himself). For those who don't remember, he recommended swapping out the 806 driver for an 802-8G because (in his words) the 806 doesn't have the "prerequisite chops" as far as upper bandwidth response. He also recommended swapping out the Valencia crossover with his Z 19 crossover which according to him, had the h.f. compensation like the stock 19 crossover, the main difference was that his design (supposedly) allowed the two eq "pots" to operate more independently of each other (i.e. rotating the mid eq pot supposedly has less effect on the highs than it does with the stock 19 crossover). He also recommended adjusting the tuning of the port to further mimic the Model 19's sound/enhance low end response. In the end, I decided to sell my Valencias and buy two pair of 19's rather than put all that time and energy (and money) into creating "pseudo 19's".......